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Mr. Scamming Eagle Mooney

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You read my previous blogs where I said that I disagree with the Muscogee Nation of Florida, for their petition to qualify for federal recognition. That is about the only thing I have against them. There is no denying that they are descended from Muscogee people. Most families in the southeastern United States can probably trace back some Native American ancestry. Everything else they are doing, I am fine with. The health clinic and food bank are wonderful services.

This next guy, is a different matter. Everything about him is questionable. He is known as James "Flaming Eagle" Mooney. He claims to be Seminole medicine man. He has shown no proof of enrollment of the Seminole Tribe or Seminole Nation. My Miccosukee and Seminole neighbors down here in southwest Florida sure don't know him. I guess he is doctoring without a license.

His website claims that he is descended from Osceola. I should have seen that one coming!

Mooney is a practitioner of the Native American Church. The Native American Church started with the Comanche Nation in Oklahoma, which I visited their small museum last October in Lawton, Oklahoma. The Native American Church uses Peyote as their sacrament.

The video below is "Scamming Eagle" Mooney explaining his beliefs and practices.


I tried to put a comment at the bottom of the video, but for some reason it disappeared. Imagine that!

None of what he says is remotely Seminole. If he didn't claim to be Seminole, I would not take the time to mention him here.

There are other videos that make even more outrageous claims. If you can stomach to watch his other videos, he defends the guy who killed those people with a new age sweat lodge ceremony in Arizona a couple years ago. Does anyone understand why he defends that? I sure don't.

Now I am much more knowledgeable in Seminole/Muskogee practices and metaphysical beliefs than what I give out here. I can say with confidence that the Seminole do not use peyote, as Mr. Mooney claims. I have never seen anything in the Seminole or Muskogee ceremonies that would be in the category of mind altering drugs. Alcohol and drugs are strictly forbidden at the Muskogee Ground which I have attended. Participants are even forbidden to partake alcohol for days before the ceremonies.

This guy says that his group has psychics and ceremonies "that can darn near cure anything." That doesn't sound like treatment to me. He says that anyone with his Oklewaha Band who has attended his healing ceremonies is able to perform any healing ceremony themselves.

And for a historian, it gets worse. On his website he claims that all those Creek people that were killed in the Red Stick War in 1813-1814, died because they were doing their ceremonies wrong and Creator punished them for that. I guess that means Mr. Mooney has the correct medicine to repel the musket balls and artillery grape shot?

And his group that he is now affiliated, the "Oklewaha Band of Seminole Indians" is in Orange Springs (Florida), a rural community north of the Ocala Forest between Ocala and Palatka. I have been watching them for a long time and their claims get more outrageous and bizarre whenever they resurface. First they claimed they were Souix. Then they were known as the "Cox-Osceola Band." (From the publication, "Marion County Remembers, 'Salty Crackers' Number Seven" by Sybil Browne Bray, 1989.) If anyone wants a scanned copy pdf file of Salty Crackers, I will be happy to provide.

Then the last few years, the Oklewaha Band called themselves either Yemassee or Miccosukee. Now, I guess they are a Native American Church. What will they surprise us with next?



Finding more information on the internet, it seems that Mr. Mooney has a long history of court battles with the State of Utah over the use of Peyote. They reached an agreement a few years ago to drop the charges if he joined a federally recognized tribe. I guess no fed recognized tribe would take him in, so the Oklewaha Band was the best that he could do.



Update, 9/20/2011

Mr. Mooney is seen on TV news in Phoenix, Arizona.

He is defending a brothel that is claiming religious freedom, and slapped down by the DA on television. He claims that they are churches of his "Oklawaha Native American Church."

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On August 9th, 2011 11:41 pm (UTC), Linda A Holley commented:
Cox Oceola
We have had problems with this group for many years. They have claimed everything you said and more. Part of this group use to go to the NFICS Powwow at Keystone Hieghts and then when we moved to Chambers Farm. They are not wanted and also claimed Cherokee linage. At one time they had a City or state sighn that said Reservation Cox Ocoeola on it. The Seminole tribe was able to get it removed. Now I think they have a private sign off the road that says reservation or something. Tina Osceola, who is a tribal member has battled them for years. You need to contact her. I would hate to see this flim flam group get any recognition. At least they cannot get State.
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On August 9th, 2011 11:46 pm (UTC), seminolewar replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
I think Tina might read my blog here. She is a good friend and lives not far from me.
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On August 10th, 2011 12:00 am (UTC), Linda A Holley replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
Also check the newspapers in the area. Someone did an expose of the tribe and it was not good. That was some years ago about the mis-use of Social Security and Medicare funds for people who were put on the rolls and the money went to the "tibe". There were also a couple of good articles for them by unknowing supporters who thought this so called tribe was the real thing and doing good.
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On August 10th, 2011 01:25 am (UTC), seminolewar replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
Would that be in the Ocala Star Banner newspaper?
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On August 11th, 2011 01:21 am (UTC), Tina Marie Osceola replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
Chris and Linda,
This is disturbing. I googled James Flaming Eagle Mooney and began to read the articles about him and his wife. I have many friends who are members of the Native American Church and of course, as a Seminole, I am aware of the fact that we do not use peyote as a religious sacrament. However, after reading his claims and watching this video, I must be tripping.
As I read the names of some of those native people from other Tribes who he claims to derive some form of legitimacy, I want to do some more homework to make sure that I am not disrespecting other native people. BUT this is for sure... he is not a medicine man for us!
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On August 11th, 2011 01:41 am (UTC), seminolewar replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
Thanks Tina. If he had to make some spectacular claims like being a Seminole medicine man, I would think that most of the rest of what he is saying could be false as well.

I know it upsets many of us, but I did not let it bother me to the point where I had trouble sleeping. I went to watch a real entertaining dvd or movie and had some tea and nice quiet time. Mr. Mooney will get what is coming to him soon enough.
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On September 20th, 2011 09:05 pm (UTC), seminolewar replied:
Re: Cox Oceola
Added an update on Mr. Mooney, 9/20/2011.
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